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[edit] Antivirus Comparison release from beta?

Ike, I would like the Antivirus Comparison article released from Beta. I just updated it, and the material is factual made all the more so by the screenshots which depict the programs' GUIs. What do you say - can we release it before it becomes outdated?--Negster22 11:23, 9 November 2007 (EST)

Hi Nancy. I haven't been keeping up with the specifics of this one. I've been trying to get some interest in getting a policy for getting articles moved out of beta. Drop by the wiki staff forum to give your input as to how we proceed. --Ikester 00:57, 10 November 2007 (EST)

OK - I will check out the forum.--Negster22 18:12, 10 November 2007 (EST)

[edit] Al_Ears needs help

Can you relocate this post to the HJT or Rootkit Revelations (preferably) forum, so I can help this user "Al_Ears" there. I just discovered his/her entry and they do have a rootkit that I'm familiar with:
http://wiki.castlecops.com/User_talk:All_ears
They say they can only reach the wiki - you'll see. Thanks,--Negster22 21:56, 27 September 2007 (EDT)

I read the talk page but can't "relocate" (repost as Al_Ears?). Besides, if he/she can't get there there doesn't seem to be much point. --Ikester 23:57, 27 September 2007 (EDT)

[edit] A query from LU

Dear Ikeb,

I would like to ask you a question. Am I welcome here or not? In a space of 2 days, I have being accused of being "childish", "ignorance", "most popular of all sophisms, rash generalization" etc. All based on what? Cos I'm not one of you running around with a title, and some argument that occured months ago? --LU 03:35, 27 January 2007 (EST)

Well your confrontational style isn't winning you any friends. --Ikester 04:30, 28 January 2007 (EST)

Robin's accusation that I added the beta template because of a "childish" spate with youngun hurts the most. Despite whatever differences I have had with people ,my edits (low quality has they may be) have always being in good faith. You would think that my hard work here would at least gain me some amount of consideration. But no, you must always put the worse interpretion on whatever I do. --LU 03:35, 27 January 2007 (EST)

Is that the royal "you"? I for one do not like to put the worst interpretation to the actions of others. --Ikester 04:30, 28 January 2007 (EST)

Well that's my complaint exactly. Why else would someone in the right mind think adding a beta template was meant to be some kind of protest???? --LU 13:19, 29 January 2007 (EST)

As you know I have always worried about people taking everything in Castlecops wiki at face value because CastleCops is justly famous. After all, you discourage people who are not CC trained (or at any of the schools) from giving advise when cleaning up malware. Is it so different here at the wiki?

Today, I finally got the time to learn to do up a template and so I did it. I considered adding the template to others like "roll your own..." but I was afraid that would offend the castlecop staff that started and worked on that page ,so I didn't. --LU 03:35, 27 January 2007 (EST)

Two things: 1) clearly it's time to move some pages out of the "beta" category and 2) it's a good idea to mark all beta pages as such. --Ikester 04:30, 28 January 2007 (EST)

Translation, I was right to add the templates. --LU 13:19, 29 January 2007 (EST)

But no, a contributor who has less than 1/10 of my edits, has little or no involvement in this part of the wiki, thinks that she has the right to judge whether my edits are good faith or not, just because she is one of the castlecops staff members and holds a MVP title. Ditto for another contributor who feels he must lecture me on "rash generalization" when I made an incidental remark and some small talk about nature of wikis..... --LU 03:35, 27 January 2007 (EST)

Sorry but you must realize that after a disagreeable history is developed, it takes time to forget and/or forgive. You must also take into account that your abrasive style isn't exactly conducive to a trust relationship. --Ikester 04:30, 28 January 2007 (EST)

So in other words, anyone is free to assume the worse of me, but I'm blamed for thinking that everyone thinks that? Again I would simply point out that you are talking about history, on the wiki I have being tough yes, and I don't always give the expected deferrence to the staff and experts here if I think they are wrong ,which probably pisses them off a little compared to the treatment they get elsewhere, I submit that is what is causing part of the problem. Particularly of late, I have being civil even though some of the staff coming in are clearly acting all haughty or downright nasty to me, but to think that I'm adding a beta template = some kind of protest is a new low. --LU 13:19, 29 January 2007 (EST)

Oldfrog has being complimentary of late, but then again he thinks I'm some big shot expert from the AI world? Do I have to announce my expertise and insist on their recognition before I am treated properly?

I expect this message will get me banned or thrown out like chiawaikian, but right now I'm close to giving up. --LU 03:35, 27 January 2007 (EST)

Hey, LU. I have not been complimentary because of anything that I "think" about you but because the content you develop is very good and I respect the time, effort, research, and thinking that has gone into it. If I have failed to leave "footprints" on your content it is because a) I didn't think it needed improvement, b) I didn't want to take the time to nit-pick every little spelling/punctuation error in a draft document, c) the content appeared unfinished and I thought criticism was premature, or d) I did not feel that I could improve on it. For my part, you are quite welcome here as content development seems to be your strong point. The real problem here, as I see it, is that CC has forums and it has a Wiki. We have not yet met the challenge of integrating those so that users of one service become users (or even aware) of the other. You mentioned that you are doing a dissertation on Wikis; any thoughts on how we can effect that integration? --Oldfrog 11:25, 27 January 2007 (EST)

Despite my boast to youngun, I'm really no expert or even professional. You know that! But some discussion would be good. --LU 13:19, 29 January 2007 (EST)

[edit] Your Accounts

Ike, is there an article on Your Account for users covering items such as unable to login, forgot password (and how to step thru that process), pages don't show (reset cookies?)...? --Paul 23:46, 5 February 2007 (EST)

Sorry Paul you lost me there. What's "Your Account"? --Ikester 01:35, 6 February 2007 (EST)

[edit] Staff namespace

You might consider checking the permissions for the staff namespace. They are wide open to viewing and editing right now by anyone. --LU 23:54, 11 February 2007 (EST)

OK thanks for the heads up. I'll check it out. Something must have been changed. --Ikester 00:13, 12 February 2007 (EST)

[edit] Media Archives

Thanks for hopping on that. Due to current issues, that kind of administration is taking a back seat for me. --Paul 16:17, 18 February 2007 (EST)

Yeah I understand. Glad to be able to help and at CCW anyone can help out. --Ikester 20:01, 18 February 2007 (EST)

[edit] Page Security

Something to take a look at... http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PageSecurity --Paul 15:58, 21 February 2007 (EST)

Interesting! Don't like that warning right off the get go. That said, restrictions don't seem that onerous and administering this doesn't seem any more onerous than separate namespaces. I haven't checked out the alternatives at this point. Maybe something even better in that list? --Ikester 23:54, 21 February 2007 (EST)

[edit] Image question

Question: Ike - is there anyway to make a left-justified thumbnail instead of a right-justified one? I'd like to do this for the AV Comparison article --Negster22 23:50 (from AVC page -4 March 2007) (EST)--Negster22 11:19, 6 March 2007 (EST)

Sure thing. The syntax is [[image:<name>|thumb|left|<caption>]]. See MediaWiki Help "Image_at_the_left" for more details. --Ikester 13:36, 6 March 2007 (EST)

Thanks, Ike - I hope you like all my changes and additions to the article thus far.--Negster22 14:23, 6 March 2007 (EST)

To be honest I haven't had a chance to review the changes. I expect LU will be offering his critique though. --Ikester 23:20, 6 March 2007 (EST)

[edit] Barnyard Star

If we had one, I'd give one to you. Wow, I bow to your efforts Ike. --Paul 13:32, 9 March 2007 (EST)

lol .... I like that! I'll take a barnyard star any day! :)

BTW, do visit at Wacka once in a while. I get kinda lonely there at times. --Ikester 18:08, 9 March 2007 (EST)

Ping me in jabber. --Paul 21:07, 9 March 2007 (EST)

[edit] Tables

Ike, is it possible to put tables side-by-side? If so, do you know the wiki code? --Paul 13:19, 13 April 2007 (EDT)

You could nest, for example, two tables within another table like so:

{|

|-
| Table 1
{| border="2" style="background:#ABCDEF;" 
|row 1
|-
|row 2
|}
| Table 2
{| border="2" style="background:#ABCDEF;"
|row 1
|-
|row 2
|}
|}

Which produces:

Table 1

row 1

row 2

Table 2

row 1

row 2

Does that help? --Ikester 00:45, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

Yes that certainly does thank you. I'm having trouble implementing it here. I wanted to see how it looks like. --Paul 23:02, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

But that is a single table i.e. there is no nesting ... not that there is any need from what I can tell. Don't you want a one to one correspondence between columns in successive rows? --Ikester 00:31, 24 April 2007 (EDT)

I wanted to have the same table split into two, same columns. The notion I have is will it display nice but decrease the overall page length? --Paul 17:04, 24 April 2007 (EDT)

Like so?


Sponsor	URL
a.logica srl	http://www.alogica.it
Anonymous	-
ApplicationX	http://www.applicationx.net
Bleeding Edge Threats	http://www.bleedingthreats.net
Firetrust	http://www.firetrust.com
Ironport	http://www.ironport.com
ISC OARC	http://oarc.isc.org
Kevin Hong	http://www.krcert.or.kr


Sponsor	URL
Korea Information Security Agency (KISA)	http://www.kisa.or.kr/
KrCERT/CC	http://www.krcert.or.kr/
Los Amigos	-
Panda Software	http://www.pandasoftware.com/
Prevx	http://www.prevx.com
Prolexic	http://www.prolexic.com
Przemyslaw Gmerek	http://www.gmer.net
Sunbelt Software	http://www.sunbelt-software.com

--Ikester 23:45, 24 April 2007 (EDT)

Perfect, let me try it. Thank you. --Paul 12:23, 25 April 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Ikebukuro

Funny, for the longest time I have always associated your ID 'Ikeb' with Ikebukuro - a town and large railway station in the North or Tokyo. Many good and inexpensive restaurants; I though that you may have lived there at some time. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikebukuro). Now I know your name is really Ike B. --Pat Willener 24 April 2007 (JST)

Yeah pretty ho-hum really eh? I've been to Japan, dos that count? :)

BTW, please sign any talk page contributions. It's tough matching history with changes made. --Ikester 23:33, 24 April 2007 (EDT)

Sorry; retroactively (manually) signed initial post. --Patto 02:04, 25 April 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Namespaces

Ike, can you help create the "Proxomitron" namespace? I no longer recall. Unsure if it'll be kept or not, but I'd like to throw up a demo. Thanks--Paul 15:04, 11 May 2007 (EDT)

Ike I created the namespace. Unfortunately I did it after Paul created content under Proxomitron: now I'm having an issue getting back the content. I might manually re-create the pages. --Robin 17:26, 11 May 2007 (EDT)

ok Ike, I got the pages back but now the category shows them twice. I don't know how to fix that. Do you? --Robin 17:42, 11 May 2007 (EDT)

Adding a Namespace is a backend task Paul.

I have no idea why the double pager ref -- the same URL for each. Strange. Perhaps duplicated database entries? Maybe one non-distinct-namespace entry and the other the distinct namespace entry? Could the namespace declarations be duplicated by any chance?

BTW, what are the perms for the Proxomitron namespace?--Ikester 02:12, 12 May 2007 (EDT)

I think we have to remove the namespace, delete the pages (or move them to something else temporarily), re-enter the namespace, and move those temp pages back. --Paul 10:16, 12 May 2007 (EDT)

That would seem to be the most direct approach.--Ikester 10:46, 12 May 2007 (EDT)

BTW, I'm getting lost with all these namespaces. I'm not sure what perms apply nor is it clear to me what the purpose is in each case. Maybe a tabular page to explain each namespace, purpose, and perms? --Ikester 10:46, 12 May 2007 (EDT)

I have some more cleaning up to do with the permissions and namespaces. Some of it will be done on the backend, so you don't have to worry about it. Also I want to upgrade the wiki in the next day or so. Where would you like the tabular page? --Robin 00:13, 15 May 2007 (EDT)

Maybe link it at the Staff:Wiki_Sysop_Articles page? --Ikester 15:39, 15 May 2007 (EDT)

It's started Ike --Robin 00:13, 16 May 2007 (EDT)

Not sure if that belongs here, but shouldn't the Proxomitron_Code category show up at Proxomitron:Home, and all filter articles belong to Proxomitron_Code? Right now some filter articles show up at Proxomitron:Home and some don't. Question came up at http://www.castlecops.com/p940397-Wiki_Wait_a_minute.html . --Sidki3003 13:02, 15 May 2007 (EDT)

Paul (or Robin?) set up the categories as they are currently, but if you would prefer some other organization, you should feel free to modify as required. If you mess up, it can easily be fixed. ;) --Ikester 15:39, 15 May 2007 (EDT)

I set them up initially and then Robin created the namespace. It was an example of how it could be done, so yes Ike's right, feel free to plan out how it ought to look. --Paul 16:04, 15 May 2007 (EDT)

Thanks for the confidence, although i have the feeling that such a reorganization would go straight above my head right now. My idea is: Make Category:Proxomitron_Top_Level the real home. Rename it to Proxomitron_Home. Use this link as the preferred reference. Still allow for the option to add a nice introduction on that page. Let it have just one subcategory for now: Proxomitron_Code. Let all no-code articles belong to Proxomitron_Home. Until it's clear that a new subcategory is useful. Then move all fitting articles to the newly created category. Good or bad idea? --Sidki3003 17:18, 15 May 2007 (EDT)

I think we have a slight disconnect here. "Category:" is a special namespace that allows pages to grouped by any category tag included in an article. Thus if Category:Proxomitron_Top_Level is renamed to Proxomitron_Home, it will no longer be a category page. I must admit I'm not quite sure what you have in mind. Perhaps the category concept is confusing the real issue? If you just want Proxomitron_Home to list links to the code pages, that's easily done. The categorization can be applied as an extra feature. --Ikester 10:16, 16 May 2007 (EDT)

I think it's done. We should be OK...--JJoe 15:36, 16 May 2007 (EDT)

Agreed :) --Sidki3003 18:23, 16 May 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Entering copy/paste ready code

Hi Ike, We've a problem at http://wiki.castlecops.com/Category:Proxomitron_Code , where HTML entities aren't shown as is but get interpreted. Right now we are using < pre > tags to preserve the code. An example is "& #8226;& nbsp;JS Ad Noscript" versus "• JS Ad Noscript" at http://wiki.castlecops.com/Proxomitron:Sidki:Remove_Ad_Scripts_Noscript . Is there a solution for this?

TIA--Sidki3003 12:25, 15 May 2007 (EDT)

Use <nowiki>HTML code</nowiki> tags. (Select and click third button from left hand side of edit window to ease typing.) Be sure to place on each line though, as line feeds are ignored. --Ikester 15:39, 15 May 2007 (EDT)

Ike I tried that in previews and the pages look odd. --Paul 16:03, 15 May 2007 (EDT)

Doesn't work for me either. I think what we would need is either a brutal "show as entered" tag, just like the old <xmp>. Or a macro button that does some regexp search/replace for HTML entities, e.g. by escaping the respective ampersands, as JJoe over at the Proxomitron forum suggested. Is one of these realistic?--Sidki3003 17:13, 15 May 2007 (EDT)

I also tried it earlier today. I think it has something to do with the pre tag being used to preserve the rest of the code. I also tried closing the tag before inserting the nowiki tag and it cuts the code into seperate sections and still doesn't resolve the problem. --Robin 23:26, 15 May 2007 (EDT)

I think the codes are confusing the MediaWiki parser. Anyway, I tried my hand at fixing up Proxomitron:Sidki:Remove Ad Scripts Noscript. Note that I did three things:

Added extra line feeds between lines with no indents
Added the ":" character to indent lines
Added <nowiki>"Regex code"</nowiki> tags to each line.

Hopefully this is what you're looking for? If not, we can revert and try something else. If it's got it, I acknowledge this would be very tedious to do for long code pages but I figure the Proxomitron folks should be able to script something to convert the usual formatted page to add the wiki-specific stuff. ;) --Ikester 10:53, 16 May 2007 (EDT)

I don't think so. The Proxomitron can 'export' filters to the clipboard. Those filters can be 'imported' by other users. We'd like to be able to add those filters to the wiki without having to reformat them. We are lazy. ;-) The problem is, even when using pre or nowiki tags, the wiki converts or interprets html entity codes; the code for an ampersand becomes an ampersand. Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page Evidently HTML entities are "special characters". We may have to cover this on the Proxomitron:Home page. We can 'fix' it for ourselves but that is only part of our responsibilities.--JJoe 16:04, 16 May 2007 (EDT)

Yep. Specifically, we need to prevent somehow that code like "& #8226;& nbsp;" (without spaces) gets converted to "• ", which happens within < pre > tags, and after your edit. Ike, can you revert this edit? In the previous version people could get the real code by switching to the "view source" tab and copying everything inside the < pre > block, which is what i asked them to do as a work-around.--Sidki3003 18:21, 16 May 2007 (EDT)

I'm going to check to see if there is a filter I can install so you don't have to escape the html characters.--Robin 18:51, 16 May 2007 (EDT)

@Sidki It's fixed. --JJoe 23:23, 16 May 2007 (EDT)

It's back to where you were you mean? I see what you mean now. Sorry I wasn't able to help. Hopefully Robin can find a filter that works. --Ikester 00:05, 17 May 2007 (EDT)

Yep, that's how it should look like. N/P Ike. Thanks JJoe for fixing and Robin for looking into a built-in solution. --Sidki3003 11:11, 17 May 2007 (EDT)

You guys say you're lazy so maybe this doesn't cut the mustard but •  displays properly. Take your pick of a dummy tag to remove the space from displayed text string ... or is this a regex filter that could be added to our MediaWiki code? --Ikester 13:11, 17 May 2007 (EDT)

Unfortunately, we need the <pre> tags to preserve the filter's format for importing.--JJoe 14:43, 17 May 2007 (EDT)

If you use the "view Source" method. Why not just copy and paste the displayed text? --Ikester 07:42, 18 May 2007 (EDT)

We could do that link but I think we'll lose or confuse some people. Some users know little about wikis or English.--JJoe 10:16, 18 May 2007 (EDT)

It seems to me that selecting some text, copying to paste buffer, and pasting elsewhere would be easier to explain than getting them to view source ... but I can appreciate the issue of having to explain that the procedure has changed even if it has been simplified. :) --Ikester 22:34, 19 May 2007 (EDT)

So the dummy tags would show,

&<b></b>#8226;&<b></b>nbsp;

We think the Wiki would be better for all, if there was a MediaWiki based automatic way to fix this, regex filter or wysiwyg tags or ???. Thanks.--JJoe 14:43, 17 May 2007 (EDT)

I've not come across anything that does that but I'll keep my eyes peeled. --Ikester 07:42, 18 May 2007 (EDT)

Thanks. We are happy to help or be helped.--JJoe 10:16, 18 May 2007 (EDT)

[edit] TIFF files?

Hi, Are .tiff files possible as uploads in the Wiki? My screengrabber doesn't give a choice, so I have to use Photoshop to convert every time.

I take it this is you Downie? Please sign talk page submissions to help the reader know who's talking without resorting to history info. ;)

Anywho, currently tiff isn't allowed. I've requested a few other formats so I'll add this one to the list. --Ikester 10:57, 16 May 2007 (EDT)

I'm checking to see what I can do about it. --Robin 17:37, 16 May 2007 (EDT)

Please try to upload a tiff now. --Robin 18:16, 16 May 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Sortable tables

I want sortable tables as in here. Is it possible now?--LU 07:28, 1 July 2007 (EDT)

Looks interesting. Thanks, I'll check it out. Collapsing looks interesting as well. --Ikester 12:12, 1 July 2007 (EDT)

[edit] image problem

Any progrezs on this? What exactly causes the bug to appear? It's getting really really old. I can't add any screenshots at all to most of the freeware security lists. --LU 03:10, 20 July 2007 (EDT)

I suspect it was the last update of MediaWiki. There have been other similar complaints as well. I've asked that the site be taken back to the previous version ... or to the next if available. --Ikester 10:24, 20 July 2007 (EDT)

Well I don't know, on hindsight, I think i encountered this problem some time ago as well, it just seemed to have gotten worse. Anyway until you figure it out I'm making changes at http://freeware.wikia.com/wiki/Lists_of_freeware_antispyware .Don't know what version they are using, but it works fine. --LU 12:54, 20 July 2007 (EDT)

That has been reported as a possibility ... but not here and I've not noticed anything myself ... until the last update, when the problem manifested itself within days. The freeware.wikia.com version is at:

MediaWiki 1.10alpha

Also FWIW:

PHP: 5.1.6 (apache2handler)
MySQL: 5.0.27-log]

Whereas we're at:

MediaWiki: 1.10.0
PHP: 5.2.2 (apache2handler)
MySQL: 4.1.8-standard

--Ikester 13:38, 20 July 2007 (EDT)

Another [one] that blew up a long time ago .--LU 07:09, 23 July 2007 (EDT)

Just tried to upload an image and it went into never-neverland again:
http://wiki.castlecops.com/Image:MRP_AVGAS.jpg
--Negster22 21:21, 9 January 2008 (EST)

Crap! :( Well that blows the previous known similarities out of the water, namely it's not:

a PNG file
reduced using a wiki tag

Any ideas? :( --Ikester 01:18, 10 January 2008

(EST) No ideas, I was hoping you'd have some. It seems to be trial and error as to whether an image is accepted. I have tried the same screenshot with PNG, GIF, and JPG formats with no luck - ie I created this GIF today with same results:
http://wiki.castlecops.com/Image:AVG-AS-Settings.gif --Negster22 16:35, 10 January 2008 (EST)
One thing I've noticed is the images seem to have a better chance of resolving when I capture them on my XP (vs. Vista) PC. I don't know why this should because image format should be independent of OS used but it is a trend I've noticed. Sometimes I use Vista snipping tool.--Negster22 10:51, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

[edit] beam me up?

http://www.castlecops.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=groupcp&g=348

Eh? --Ikester 01:22, 10 January 2008 (EST)

[edit] images copyrights

Oops, I think I just uploaded some copyrighted images.
Image:Keyboard mapped image.png
Image:Image verification.png
Please advise. --Brewt 21:07, 26 October 2007 (EDT)

NP. Deleted. --Ikester 13:54, 27 October 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Bulk Spam Reporting

I noticed you added some of the pages to the spam category. I then notice 2 were left out and added the same link you did thinking it would add those two pages to the spam category. The two you missed were 广东时代互联科技有限公司 Removals and Todaynic Removals Archive
-Trobbins 04:01, 22 March 2008 (EDT)

OK thanks. Missed the latter 'cause you hadn't made changes to it yesterday. As for the former, maybe you missed my note at the talk page but my browser won't render the current 广东时代互联科技有限公司 Removals article. I've tried FF, IE, and K-Meleon. --Ikester 11:07, 22 March 2008 (EDT)

I've been having problems with it too. I think it is the size of the page that is causing the problem. There were nearly 6,000 domains listed so I have been moving old reports to an archive page, which is were I noticed the category link. Oh, and yes I did miss your note. -Trobbins 13:07, 22 March 2008 (EDT)

I am fairly certain the template is causing the problem with a page displaying completely blank after you exceed 1,500+ domains, were a page with out the template code can contain more than 6,000 domains as in XIN_NET_Removals Maybe it's a limitation of the wiki software, or the server it is hosted on. -Trobbins 16:55, 31 March 2008 (EDT)

Which page? --Ikester 22:53, 31 March 2008 (EDT)

广东时代互联科技有限公司 Removals loads a blank page. I was able to recover other pages by going back in history and removing all the content and saving. BTW, I refreshed this page a few times since 31 March and I just now saw your last post. -Trobbins 00:17, 7 April 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Watch this page notification

I don't know if you can do anything about notifications, but I never receive notifications on page changes that I am watching.
Thanks -Trobbins 04:01, 22 March 2008 (EDT)

I haven't been using that feature but will check into it. Thanks for the heads up. --Ikester 11:07, 22 March 2008 (EDT)

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